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Waste of Time Conversing with "Moderate" Muslims

Muslim:

I see that it is a problem but I don't narrow it down to one community There are so many child abuse news that are censored as well

Peter McLoughlin:

I'm told my book has too much proof in it, and it's 328 pages long. I can't write every book.

Peter McLoughlin:

There are about 12 books on child abuse in the Catholic Church, and some Hollywood movies. The Catholic Church acknowledges it and apologizes. Mine is the only 1 book on the organized rape of non-Muslim girls by Muslim gangs. I prove Muslim groups knew about it for 20 years, but they lied and said it was not happening. No Hollywood movie being made about this abuse. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

Muslim:

There is difference It's just the way you use "muslims" and "asians/pakistanis" interchangeable. İ think all communities have criminals and it shouldn't be a reason to stigmatise the wider community.. İt makes the problem bigger

Peter McLoughlin:

You are either stupid or you are not reading what I say. I know very well there are Pakistani Hindus & Pakistani Christians (I've met them). So, if I refer to Pakistanis I mean Pakistanis. Muslims come in all colours and are to be found in all nationalities. So I do not use these terms interchangeably. Let me guess: you are a Muslim.

Muslim:

yes I am a muslim and I dont think that Islam endorses that kind of crimes. However, I can also understand some people may want to commit crimes and legitimise it by trying to find excuses for their faults

Peter McLoughlin:

Then you know nothing about Islam and slavery. There are dozens of books on this subject. I'm always amazed at how full of deceit Muslims are.

Peter McLoughlin:
Muslim:

May be I know a few things about Islam Including its position on slavery etc. I am not going to talk about lsavery in christianity/in the west because there is no benefit in that argument

Muslim:

but I will say something in a few words, because I belive you are a concerned man with good intention (even a father may be)

Muslim:

I heard the arguments about "how it is permissible to approach non-muslim as they have no rights i.e slaves etc" and I am fighting against this fringe idea since day one

Muslim:

but the problem is, when some people paint everything with a broad brush and assume theie ideas are "original islam" then majority muslims beleife become insignificant... because; accoirding to people ISIL represents islam, not me

Peter McLoughlin:

In the last 15 years in the West we have had nothing but lies about Islam. Every time Muslim visitors/immigrants in our country kill non-Muslims, we are told it's nothing to do with Islam, "Islam is the religion of peace". This is one of the biggest lies in history. All the history books (including those by Muslims) show that Islam was nothing but a religion of war. It is only that the West had superior military technology that we could stop the genocidal Turks from invading Europe and putting our people to death. If you do not know this, then you are like the other Turks I know in London. Compeletely blind to what your religion says and what it has done. Britain and Ireland chose Christianity. Monks came here and explained Christianity. No-one forced them to convert at the point of the sword. But that is Islam has done and is still doing with ISIS, Boko Haram, Taliban, etc. Islam is evil. I want to see it banned from the West. You can keep this evil religion. Even Ataturk thought that Islam was evil.

Muslim:

1) So Turks were genocidal but head of Orthodox Christians church is stationed in Istanbul

2) Turks ruled over Balkans for 400 years but Serbs, Croatians, greeks and all other Balkan nations were allowed to practice religion and exist...

3) You think Christianity was peaceful (in contrast to Islam) then you haven't read the history much.. You think it was peaceful don't know the crusades or inquisition or establishment of Anglican church

4) Yes of course, everyone accepted Christianity by peace :) somehow you forget what happened to Pagan's perhaps.. :( and others who didnt accept it peacefully I do respect some of your points but please keep your selective reading of history to yourself

Peter McLoughlin:

1) So Turks were genocidal but head of Orthodox Christians church is stationed in Istanbul

-- The Nazis didn't succeed in wiping out all the Jews in Europe. Were they not genocidal? Turkey did not succeed in wiping out all the Armenians? Was your country not genocidal.

 

2) Turks ruled over Balkans for 400 years but Serbs, Croatians, greeks and all other Balkan nations were allowed to practice religion and exist...

-- as Dhimmis, 3rd class citizens. If you think that is OK, then you won't mind the West imposing discriminatory practices/violence against Muslims in the West. You approve of us removing Muslims from all government jobs, impose extra taxes on them, deny them any charity, make them wear bells to mark them out, make them walk in the gutter . Are you going to tell me you know nothing of the Devshirme enslavement of children, taken from Christian families and made to become the Jannisary killers for the Ottomans? Again, you are being deceitful here.

 

3) You think Christianity was peaceful (in contrast to Islam) then you haven't read the history much.. You think it was peaceful don't know the crusades or inquisition or establishment of Anglican church

-- Again either you are stupid or deliberately deceitful. How many 100s of attacks on Christendom occured before Christendom fought back 400 years later with the 1st Christian Jihad?

 

4) Yes of course, everyone accepted Christianity by peace :) somehow you forget what happened to Pagan's perhaps.. :( and others who didnt accept it peacefully -- Show me the history book that says that people in Ireland and Britain were forced to convert to Christianity. Why didn't the disciples of Jesus go off and become killers, the way the disciples of Mohammed did? After Christianity was adopted by the Roman Empire it transformed. In response to centuries of the most genocidal violence from Muslims, it transformed again and began the Crusades. It's a waste of time talking with Muslims. You are all liars. Which is why I normally block any Muslim who follows me. Stop wasting my time. You Muslims are oblivious to your own supremacism.

Muslim:

hmm, as you said waste of time because you have a very specific reading of history I bet you havea very specific reading of today's world

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